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Add meltpond coupling #37
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Can we turn them off ? Is the UM expecting melt ponds ? |
@anton-seaice oh I was under the impression we wanted melt ponds, if not that makes life easier. The UM isn't expecting melt ponds (but we could turn this on), and we're currently using the |
They should all be off, basically there aren't meltponds in the Antarctic, and previous attempts at using them have overrepresented their impacts in the Antarctic. We changed this here for OM3: I suggest updating the whole config to the om3-configs, but in the interim, you could just remove tr_pond_lvl as the default is .false. |
Following further discussion, it sounds like we want to add the meltpond coupling. I've had a go at following the instructions in the issue description. Branches with the changes are available here:
A lot of it is still a bit over my head, and so there is a chance I've missed something here. The above changes have no impact however. The following shows the surface temperature on the 31st day of simulations with and without the changes I'm not sure whether anything is done by the UM with the In
I'm wondering whether the meltponds impacting albedo is part of JULES, and so not having any effect for us? |
I think JULES doesn't include Antarctica ? If you have a look at the Also you might need to turn on |
Todo from meeting:
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Just confirming that there is mediator output on other fields ? We had an issue at one point where the mediator output didn't work at all? Also - wondering if |
Sorry about this – turns out the issue was me not understanding how to build properly, and the code changes didn't make their way into the runs... After doing that properly and swapping to the (I've rolled the ice export data so that it better lines up with the atmosphere in the plots) The pond fraction to the mediator very closely matches But the pond depth sent to the mediator is greater than the I think because the Need to try and understand what the UM requires when the |
HI @blimlim I will have a look next week, I thought the pond fraction looked quite high, for cat 1 and 2 mor like what total ice conc might be. Might still be something not quite right but progress over the levl ice set up. |
Thanks @ofa001. I've had a look into the JULES |
HI @bimlim It will be best to line it up with what we sent in ACCESS-CM2, I will get you the relevent lines of code in a couple of hours after my next set of meetings, and will check if/when weighting where applied on the CICE or UM side of the coupling. Glad you are looking at some of the JULES routines! |
Some todos/questions to resolve from the meeting:
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If we are using tr_pond_topo, which is what I would recommend then icepack_shortwave has this section of code already set up. So if the lid is Calculate effective pond area for HadGEM
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The sentence above should read. "so if the lid is > hp (=0.01) then the system already sets the apeffn=0. So you don't need to change". Apologies, I had a system problem and need to reboot, after several trues to edit. |
The other lid scheme is the Stefan approximation is part of icepack_melpond_lvl scheme but we are going to set a switch to abort if that option is chosen, so I think the scheme should already include lids if they are forming in the topo scheme but it would be good to check that it is in practise. |
Hi @ofa001, thanks for looking into this! It turns out I'm currently sending the raw pond fraction Swapping to I've added fixing this to my todo list above. |
Hi @blimlim, Thats good news its a big difference, I thought I would have seen values like this before in CM2. I am going to look into the ice thickness issue next, again it may not be as big as your plot showed, as it will only effect the lowest ice thickness category, so around the ice edge mostly, and I am wondering if I am mixing up our old CSIRO model where our multi layer model did become 'zero layer' as it got thinner, same with snow models (in pre-CABLE set up). |
Add support for coupling melt ponds between UM and CICE6.
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