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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108755486473457755 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108755486473457755><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108755486473457755>05/18/2023 9:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Let’s do this</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108755627213336576 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108755627213336576><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 9:59 AM">09:59</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Part of the style guide I was writing ended up centered on role design which wasn’t the intention, but here we go: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LPp_sz77WHztkXHYnrIGY3pCxmo-VCna6-pNt9pPYQ8/edit?usp=sharing">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LPp_sz77WHztkXHYnrIGY3pCxmo-VCna6-pNt9pPYQ8/edit?usp=sharing</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class="chatlog__embed-color-pill chatlog__embed-color-pill--default"></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LPp_sz77WHztkXHYnrIGY3pCxmo-VCna6-pNt9pPYQ8/edit?usp=sharing"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">UM Proposed Style Guide</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-description><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">General theme: Noir Urban Fantasy Gothic Horror Aesthetic: Site assets: ??? Game assets: pixel art intentionally designed to lean towards programmer art Roles: Use nouns. While shorthand for a player with the Villager role might be “blue” or “innocent,” when referring to the role as part of docu...</div></div></div><div class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-container><a class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail-link href=https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XaGOxKa6S7nEScPCQGOSyE0mfYa_To5krkKIwjwUIFE/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/ADP-6oFOuY-Cy7JsdYETuejMcROQHEL4UBY1y_C4PGbB6MhA2O1ECvu7TWktxQgX4Lc7d0bFGFIx2GiHKQv70LXHfw-QtlprrCATxF7WSAMtkBey%3Dw1200-h630-p> <img class=chatlog__embed-thumbnail src=https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/XaGOxKa6S7nEScPCQGOSyE0mfYa_To5krkKIwjwUIFE/https/lh3.googleusercontent.com/docs/ADP-6oFOuY-Cy7JsdYETuejMcROQHEL4UBY1y_C4PGbB6MhA2O1ECvu7TWktxQgX4Lc7d0bFGFIx2GiHKQv70LXHfw-QtlprrCATxF7WSAMtkBey%3Dw1200-h630-p alt=Thumbnail loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108755683207290990 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108755683207290990><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 9:59 AM">09:59</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Got a lot to say about general design especially about monsters/cult</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108755774475354152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108755774475354152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108755774475354152>05/18/2023 9:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Can I just start with something that's been nagging me for a while</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108755924950204428 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108755924950204428><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 10:00 AM">10:00</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wouldn't Barkeep/Tavern Keeper fit instead of Chef? It would fit the setting better too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108755987449528480 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108755987449528480><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 10:00 AM">10:00</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Barkeep also makes more sense since you're effectively RBing too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108764821337415773 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108764821337415773><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108764821337415773>05/18/2023 10:35 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good question</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108765032864551063 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108765032864551063><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 10:36 AM">10:36</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don't have a problem with the name Chef for the theme, although I think there are debatably more fitting names for the role based on its function, maybe</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108765175215038541 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108765175215038541><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 10:36 AM">10:36</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's one of those that's so close that I think changing it would be kinda negligible. Like Chemist/Poisoner, idc what that role is called it all means the same thing at the end of the day</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108767468727582740 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108767468727582740><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108767468727582740>05/18/2023 10:46 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The main thing I want to focus on is design.
One of the things I would complain to Sharky about when it came to Rend's repo was a lack of design documentation. There is actually a fair bit for some of the functions and how things hook together, but what I mean is game design. I think that's a pretty severe problem with a codebase that runs on crowdsourced volunteer contributions, it'll inevitably lead to some drift from what the original aim was
I'll use the Monsters as an example. Does anyone know what the Monster faction is supposed to do? Last I checked (this may have been patched) they can joint with the Mafia and hostile thirds, so why aren't these roles just grouped under Mafia? Something to keep in mind is that before BM launched, Rend's Arcmafia/epicmafia.org didn't group the Cultists and Cthulhu under the Monsters. It was just Lycan and Witch.
All we have for what Rend intended the Monsters to be is the following: "Monsters meet together and win if they reach the majority just like the mafia, but they do not vote to kill someone each night." Okay, that's simple, but since then the Monsters <em>have</em> gained the ability to directly kill people: the Thing and Alchemist both have direct ability to kill, and the Leech is a bit of a slow burn but it still kills directly.
I'm not saying I'm against the Monsters having killing power necessarily, but most versions of Mafia/Werewolf that have a second scum faction are explicitly hostile-but-not-killing, which comes as both a challenge and a benefit. Why is the Thing a Monster when on EM, werewolf made for a fine independent role that was just a variant on Serial Killer?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108769700361547776 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108769700361547776><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108769700361547776>05/18/2023 10:54 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Another problem: <strong>bloat</strong>
I think that we're starting to see the accretion of roles that have such minor differences they only exist to take up space. Messenger versus Fabulist is a great example: the latter is intended to fake <em>system messages</em>, while the former has a preset "You received a message" text preceding whatever they send a player. Is this really necessary? Seems like Messenger is inherently more limiting than Fabulist. You can use Fabulist to <em>either</em> fake system messages <em>or</em> just send whatever you want, nobody can stop you (btw this whole thing goes for Courier and Hoaxer too, obviously)
Medic is a Doctor that can self-visit. This is archaic design in the face of BM's best innovation for game design: modifiers. Let's say that no role can self-visit by default (just hypothetically I know that will impact certain roles). Give that role a "Selfish" modifier and all of a sudden you don't need roles like Medic.
The problem with roles like Medic is that they inevitably start to invite variants on other roles in the same mold. During the last days of EM, Lucid decided that since Nurse is a Doctor that can roleblock, he wanted to add a Cop that could roleblock. He called it Friendly Cop. Imagine if this just became standard: we would have a Friendly Tracker, a Friendly Watcher, a Friendly Detective all cluttering up the role page which has already started to become innavigable. Wouldn't a roleblocking modifier cover all of our bases?
And btw: just because we remove roles like Medic or Friendly Cop or Nurse in favor of modifiers doesn't mean they stop existing. You just have to make a Doctor or a Cop or a whatever with the modifier of your choice. Same goes for Bulletproof: why does Bulletproof exist as a default role in the era where we can have a Villager (armored)?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108770308132982835 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108770308132982835><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 10:57 AM">10:57</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And this takes me to my next problem: <strong>role page is starting to get crowded, yo</strong>
This is currently a problem for only the village roles but as we approach <strong>100% EPICMAFIA FEATURE PARITY</strong> (the only goal worth having) we will probably want to break up the role page into subcategories. This is already done over on MafiaUniverse and Town of Salem, should not be hard to do. Put crafting roles in one category, investigatory roles in another category, miscellaneous roles in another category etc etc etc
This is just good for new players and helps them learn stuff, and it also keeps things from getting a little haphazard and random with the organization on the page in the first place. I'm also posting this in on-site designs, since this falls into a topic over there more than anything</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/18/2023 10:57 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108785656374775968 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108785656374775968><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=golbolco#0000>golbolco</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1108765032864551063')"> I don't have a problem with the name Chef for the theme, although I think there are debatably more fitting names for the role based on its function, maybe </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108785656374775968>05/18/2023 11:58 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Eh, that is more on par of following the thematic of getting wasted/distracted/jailed being self-explanatory by itself on a roleblock
By all means, I'm okay with Chef as well, just thinking on a more befitting name if everyone else is on-board</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108785900546183329 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108785900546183329><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108785900546183329>05/18/2023 11:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm always open to new suggestions</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108785916165771354 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108785916165771354><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 11:59 AM">11:59</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Need to get a spreadsheet going</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108785964408647762 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108785964408647762><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108785964408647762>05/18/2023 11:59 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On it with reading</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108789501263872091 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108789501263872091><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author title=golbolco#0000>golbolco</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1108767468727582740')"> The main thing I want to focus on is design.
One of the things I would complain to Sharky about when it came to Rend's repo was a lack of design documentation. There is actually a fair bit for some of the functions and how things hook together, but what I mean is game design. I think that's a pretty severe problem with a codebase that runs on crowdsourced volunteer contributions, it'll inevitably lead to some drift from what the original aim was
I'll use the Monsters as an example. Does anyone know what the Monster faction is supposed to do? Last I checked (this may have been patched) they can joint with the Mafia and hostile thirds, so why aren't these roles just grouped under Mafia? Something to keep in mind is that before BM launched, Rend's Arcmafia/epicmafia.org didn't group the Cultists and Cthulhu under the Monsters. It was just Lycan and Witch.
All we have for what Rend intended the Monsters to be is the following: "Monsters meet together and win if they reach the majority just like the mafia, but they do not vote to kill someone each night." Okay, that's simple, but since then the Monsters <em>have</em> gained the ability to directly kill people: the Thing and Alchemist both have direct ability to kill, and the Leech is a bit of a slow burn but it still kills directly.
I'm not saying I'm against the Monsters having killing power necessarily, but most versions of Mafia/Werewolf that have a second scum faction are explicitly hostile-but-not-killing, which comes as both a challenge and a benefit. Why is the Thing a Monster when on EM, werewolf made for a fine independent role that was just a variant on Serial Killer? </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108789501263872091>05/18/2023 12:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alright, my take on monster, even though it's just a vague description and I'm adding upon it, it's more of a take on trying less on direct kills/kill power but focused more on disruption and getting around on outnumbering the village themselves with bonus combo interactions if played correctly(Witch + Accursed Doll, for example), you'll notice that most roles I've suggested so far has that in mind and tries to go away from direct kills much like mafia does + some extra power
If you guys also want to suggest/argue about monsters itself, I'm all ears aside canning it as a whole when it has potential on itself by being another faction to play with/against
Should they be able to joint still? That's actually a tricky question, really. Back then, there could be all sorts of joint wins and maybe if monsters get enough power roles that can be too much for either mafia or village to handle, I do think it should be considered
It is even possible to sort of play around with mafia vs monsters with some other thirds involved too, even though there isn't too much variety currently
My argument on Thing/Werewolf is not just being a legacy role but also risk/reward if played correctly. By itself, it feels underpowered already by CM/SK which can kill and one even has an extra life to get Scott free for a while
Cult/Cthulhu sort of makes sense together, Cthulhu alone is pretty underpowered and yes, I'll use the legacy card when it comes to monsters for Cult still, they could very well worship some of the monsters they serve on the first place</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108795586813112351 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108795586813112351><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108795586813112351>05/18/2023 12:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Actually agree, there shouldn't be both Fabulist/Messenger and Courier/Hoaxer. I'm aware some roles are just made for fun/outside of a competitive scenario but. It should also be considered that too, some people take mafia more seriously and have fun that way. With that out of the way, there should be only one of each, I've seen uses of courier hunting for third and finding it but, it's not much different on what hoaxer can do already.
I don't really like Medic that much because it has the effect of self-protect and seriously, no other role can even do that in the first place, you don't see GS/BS/Santa or any other PR managing to save/give shit to themselves <em>intentionally</em>. Tinker/Forager to a lesser degree too but they should be fine, right?
On to modifiers, it's a bit of a powercreep but at least it's optional and I like it <em>but</em> I don't think it should warrant canning some roles just because it gives some extras they already have to play with(mostly passive roles, which should be a tag of some sort to some role identification for new players too) , keeping in mind <strong>modifiers itself can be given to said roles already</strong>. An armored BP already gets two vests, an armed Sheriff gets two guns that can reveal etc. When it comes to competitive, there'll be people that may find modifiers somewhat of a nuisance too so that should be kept in mind. I'm no competitive player and I don't care much anymore about playing Mafia seriously but they should also be considered as part of player base.
I'm all in for subcategories for filtering in some roles and having an easier time finding/using them, helps a lot with future organizing too before it becomes too much of a headache to handle, thank God there was a search function to find some of the roles already.
Some PRs shouldn't be given even more of an edge on adding in with current modifiers, such as Friendly Cop, and brings in <em>powercreep</em>, which is one of the main reasons BP is considered being redundant when armored exists</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/18/2023 12:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108795643079708682 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108795643079708682><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 12:38 PM">12:38</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Forgot to quote rip</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108798991946219570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108798991946219570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645>Ruviz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1108789501263872091')"> Alright, my take on monster, even though it's just a vague description and I'm adding upon it, it's more of a take on trying less on direct kills/kill power but focused more on disruption and getting around on outnumbering the village themselves with bonus combo interactions if played correctly(Witch + Accursed Doll, for example), you'll notice that most roles I've suggested so far has that in mind and tries to go away from direct kills much like mafia does + some extra power
If you guys also want to suggest/argue about monsters itself, I'm all ears aside canning it as a whole when it has potential on itself by being another faction to play with/against
Should they be able to joint still? That's actually a tricky question, really. Back then, there could be all sorts of joint wins and maybe if monsters get enough power roles that can be too much for either mafia or village to handle, I do think it should be considered
It is even possible to sort of play around with mafia vs monsters with some other thirds involved too, even though there isn't too much variety currently
My argument on Thing/Werewolf is not just being a legacy role but also risk/reward if played correctly. By itself, it feels underpowered already by CM/SK which can kill and one even has an extra life to get Scott free for a while
Cult/Cthulhu sort of makes sense together, Cthulhu alone is pretty underpowered and yes, I'll use the legacy card when it comes to monsters for Cult still, they could very well worship some of the monsters they serve on the first place </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108798991946219570>05/18/2023 12:51 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I definitely don't want to can the Monsters/Cult entirely. I think extra factions is a plus, hence why it's worked so well in places like starcraft mafia and town of salem
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">It is even possible to sort of play around with mafia vs monsters with some other thirds involved too, even though there isn't too much variety currently
</div></div>I'm thinking that mafia+monsters probably need to be more hostile to each other. One problem they've observed on mafiascum is that once one Mafioso is converted to Cultist, all of them start to fall like dominos. I wonder if there is a good way to counteract this
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">Cult/Cthulhu sort of makes sense together, Cthulhu alone is pretty underpowered and yes, I'll use the legacy card when it comes to monsters for Cult still, they could very well worship some of the monsters they serve on the first place
</div></div>I will be clear: Cthulhu does <em>not</em> work as a lone role. It was introduced to EM as a specifically cult-sided role, the first of its kind. It's why Lucid and I started discussing fleshing out the Cult into their own faction distinct from being a couple of aligned third party roles</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108802609344688158 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108802609344688158><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645>Ruviz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1108795586813112351')"> Actually agree, there shouldn't be both Fabulist/Messenger and Courier/Hoaxer. I'm aware some roles are just made for fun/outside of a competitive scenario but. It should also be considered that too, some people take mafia more seriously and have fun that way. With that out of the way, there should be only one of each, I've seen uses of courier hunting for third and finding it but, it's not much different on what hoaxer can do already.
I don't really like Medic that much because it has the effect of self-protect and seriously, no other role can even do that in the first place, you don't see GS/BS/Santa or any other PR managing to save/give shit to themselves <em>intentionally</em>. Tinker/Forager to a lesser degree too but they should be fine, right?
On to modifiers, it's a bit of a powercreep but at least it's optional and I like it <em>but</em> I don't think it should warrant canning some roles just because it gives some extras they already have to play with(mostly passive roles, which should be a tag of some sort to some role identification for new players too) , keeping in mind <strong>modifiers itself can be given to said roles already</strong>. An armored BP already gets two vests, an armed Sheriff gets two guns that can reveal etc. When it comes to competitive, there'll be people that may find modifiers somewhat of a nuisance too so that should be kept in mind. I'm no competitive player and I don't care much anymore about playing Mafia seriously but they should also be considered as part of player base.
I'm all in for subcategories for filtering in some roles and having an easier time finding/using them, helps a lot with future organizing too before it becomes too much of a headache to handle, thank God there was a search function to find some of the roles already.
Some PRs shouldn't be given even more of an edge on adding in with current modifiers, such as Friendly Cop, and brings in <em>powercreep</em>, which is one of the main reasons BP is considered being redundant when armored exists </span> <span class=chatlog__reply-edited-timestamp title="05/18/2023 12:38 PM">(edited)</span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108802609344688158>05/18/2023 1:05 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just to add in a little more on powercreep, you then have a role that does everything, does your taxes, works a second and third job, roleblocks, investigates, steals, kills someone at random and then you stop to think, what's even the point of the original when something else that does <em>everything</em> else but better with no downsides exists? There should be some limitations on what roles should be to make them have their uniqueness, not X but better</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108802676134776902 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108802676134776902><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 1:05 PM">13:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><strong>Looking at you, Crafter.</strong></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108803122844946552 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108803122844946552><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108803122844946552>05/18/2023 1:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is why despite my love of making NEW roles I want to get all of the old ones on the table first and start taking names</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108804125505884230 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108804125505884230><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108804125505884230>05/18/2023 1:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>IMO I think Nurse works because there <em>is</em> some thought on making it unique somewhat with a downside. You have a saving role <em>but</em> with a roleblock, thus rendering a PR useless in exchange of holding onto it being clear</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108804187757756496 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108804187757756496><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 1:11 PM">13:11</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Friendly Cop doesn't because there isn't, you even roleblock them</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108804466469240954 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108804466469240954><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 1:13 PM">13:13</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Investigative roles itself are already considered powerful</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108806478179094608 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108806478179094608><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108806478179094608>05/18/2023 1:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>See, I don’t disagree. It’s just that you can get the same effect out of a modifier</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108807070498693270 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108807070498693270><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 1:23 PM">13:23</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know that there is a concern about stacking multiple modifiers though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108808577851871263 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108808577851871263><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108808577851871263>05/18/2023 1:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Still, I don't think that should warrant a role canning just because it's basic and a modifier can already do it
I'll even throw a bone and say to make it more unique like making it so vests from a BP can't be stolen, for example</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/18/2023 1:40 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108812363320283186 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108812363320283186><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108812363320283186>05/18/2023 1:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here’s something I suggested to both Ruviz and Maxie a while ago:
<div class="chatlog__markdown-quote"><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-border"></div><div class="chatlog__markdown-quote-content">basically Cultist would be the basic unit of the Monster faction, like Blue and Nilla are for Village and Mafia. Cult Leader is the role that turns a Monster meeting into a Monster <em>conversion</em> meeting while active, and has the same autokill effect on Cultists if killed. If you make a setup with a cultist and no cult leader, they can't convert but also don't autodie from lacking a cult leader.</div></div></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108813159566954516 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108813159566954516><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 1:47 PM">13:47</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This reminds me of something slond and I used to talk about that I’ll write up in a little while too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108854632056360962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108854632056360962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108854632056360962>05/18/2023 4:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Someone pitched me an idea for another monster role that kind of sounds like a nerfed Arsonist and I like it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108854714105344130 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108854714105344130><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 4:32 PM">16:32</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just have to work out the kinks on how to make it cohesive</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108855050148773898 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108855050148773898><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108855050148773898>05/18/2023 4:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m gonna fight for realigning Medusa with the Monsters</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108855202079068171 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108855202079068171><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108855202079068171>05/18/2023 4:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And I'll fight for a rename, I like Basilisk as a replacement</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108860492816076812 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108860492816076812><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108860492816076812>05/18/2023 4:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Updated the doc with "Hound" has a interaction with GY too that people may like</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108860790297071626 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108860790297071626><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 4:56 PM">16:56</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can share the wiki where it was based on too so the GY interaction makes sense</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869031504662648 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869031504662648><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108869031504662648>05/18/2023 5:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I have an outlandish idea for modifiers</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869193169911828 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869193169911828><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 5:30 PM">17:30</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What if, there was modifier but for Alignment overall?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869366503706685 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869366503706685><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 5:30 PM">17:30</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Why the idea? For more rooms on other modifiers and something else in mind, "Selfish" as a modifier which can't joint win</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869763456827513 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869763456827513><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108869763456827513>05/18/2023 5:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I actually asked Sharky a couple hours ago if alignment-specific modifiers are possible</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869811854917704 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869811854917704><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108869811854917704>05/18/2023 5:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Honestly missed it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869829500346449 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869829500346449><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108869829500346449>05/18/2023 5:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I kind of like the idea of turning passive thirds into hostiles and Vice versa with a modifier</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869844142665848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869844142665848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 5:32 PM">17:32</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh it was in DMs lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869863499386930 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869863499386930><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108869863499386930>05/18/2023 5:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I see</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869935507189930 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869935507189930><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108869935507189930>05/18/2023 5:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But yeah, I think I’ll get ideas on a document once I have the design stuff on another doc</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869949398720583 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869949398720583><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 5:33 PM">17:33</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m moving kinda slow today</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108869966775726100 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108869966775726100><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/18/2023 5:33 PM">17:33</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Apologies</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1108870044475199578 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1108870044475199578><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1108870044475199578>05/18/2023 5:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>No worries, I'm spitballing as the ideas come along</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109233142277095455 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109233142277095455><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109233142277095455>05/19/2023 5:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was thinking on how to include Chupacabra since being one of the classic monsters around and I think I have an idea, just have to run with you guys for valuation</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109233221339721728 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109233221339721728><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:36 PM">17:36</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Before I just plop it on the doc</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109235130339430433 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109235130339430433><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109235130339430433>05/19/2023 5:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, we have the blood sucking mechanic from Leech</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109235195405664347 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109235195405664347><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:44 PM">17:44</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And of course chupacabra is known for bloodsucking livestock</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109235239722696714 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109235239722696714><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:44 PM">17:44</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So maybe some variation on Leech's mechanics</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109238368967077899 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109238368967077899><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109238368967077899>05/19/2023 5:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That could be an additional too but taking a closer look into the legend itself, there's something else that stood out when I was reading, which was necrosis</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:57 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109238621250261003 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109238621250261003><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:58 PM">17:58</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How that applies in Mafia? I was thinking of a delayed bleed where the bitten doesn't know <em>but</em> if someone were to visit the bitten, they could tell from the odor</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:58 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109238994086154321 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109238994086154321><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 5:59 PM">17:59</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The catch of having an undetectable bleed for them first, is the delay and being able to tell if someone else notices</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109239080815972392 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109239080815972392><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 6:00 PM">18:00</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One night to detect, one to save or else rip</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109239482915491850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109239482915491850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 6:01 PM">18:01</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Now, the bloodsucking part itself, not sure how to make it stand out differently from Leech</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109260299585998848 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109260299585998848><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109260299585998848>05/19/2023 7:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh yeah, since there are actual animals amidst, I guess it's fair to have it instakill them</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109260331252981861 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109260331252981861><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:24 PM">19:24</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Monkey, turkey, capybara</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109261650781028393 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109261650781028393><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109261650781028393>05/19/2023 7:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah I'm in game with meira right now</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109261742413992016 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109261742413992016><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:30 PM">19:30</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>at least on this codebase, there isn't a guarantee that the animal names stay as they are</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109262309542596658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109262309542596658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109262309542596658>05/19/2023 7:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I see</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109262757271982110 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109262757271982110><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109262757271982110>05/19/2023 7:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I kinda liked the frenzy idea someone threw out</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109262827035828274 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109262827035828274><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:34 PM">19:34</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Needs to be fleshed out a bit but I think it has potential</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109263449671864321 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109263449671864321><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109263449671864321>05/19/2023 7:36 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hard for it not be just <strong>KILL</strong></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109263840333533225 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109263840333533225><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109263840333533225>05/19/2023 7:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wait here's an idea</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109263905328484433 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109263905328484433><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:38 PM">19:38</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What if it has a shotgun kind of effect where it hits multiple targets at once for diminished amounts of blood</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109264041265860658 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109264041265860658><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109264041265860658>05/19/2023 7:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like shotgun blood leeching?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109264083905167370 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109264083905167370><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:39 PM">19:39</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>25 here and there or something?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109264084987289710 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109264084987289710><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109264084987289710>05/19/2023 7:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109264142017245216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109264142017245216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:39 PM">19:39</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm just spitballing</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109264157850734713 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109264157850734713><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 7:39 PM">19:39</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But yeah something like that</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109264343570325624 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109264343570325624><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109264343570325624>05/19/2023 7:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I sort of understand but not how it falls on the frenzy part</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109287648427786252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109287648427786252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109287648427786252>05/19/2023 9:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Okay so, the summary:
During the night, can suck a player's blood without them knowing.
Once the player had their blood sucked, they'll die after the second day but can still be saved.
Another player that visits the Chupacabra's bitten will be able to tell they're dying and will be notified without the bitten knowing.
Animals instantly die if bitten.
Once the Chupacabra manages to get a kill this way, it enters a frenzied state and kills a random player not aligned with Monsters.
Does not get detected by watchers, trackers and their mafia counterparts and will instead be shown as "Something".</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109287671492263977 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109287671492263977><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/19/2023 9:13 PM">21:13</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How's it?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109525529666793522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109525529666793522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109525529666793522>05/20/2023 12:58 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://mafia.baseddpt.com/community/forums/thread/qkvj2wFvH">https://mafia.baseddpt.com/community/forums/thread/qkvj2wFvH</a></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109525549954646036 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109525549954646036><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 12:58 PM">12:58</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Might be worth thinking about this one</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109526569296334953 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109526569296334953><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/334371083891376148/d47572dd485683642d2d53db5ec1673c.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(96,125,139) title=arials92#0000 data-user-id=334371083891376148>Arials</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109526569296334953>05/20/2023 1:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’d agree with the making their votes have no weight</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531235698618438 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531235698618438><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109531235698618438>05/20/2023 1:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah I did suggest the same thing back in the BM discord</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531276542754826 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531276542754826><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:21 PM">13:21</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>"can vote but vote is hidden"</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:21 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531439302725632 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531439302725632><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:21 PM">13:21</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And I think I have an idea for a visitor/trespasser/fool but for scatterbrained monster</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531483040923808 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531483040923808><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:21 PM">13:21</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hear me out...</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531507858612335 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531507858612335><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:22 PM">13:22</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Stray Lamb</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531636468551810 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531636468551810><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:22 PM">13:22</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Give the icon black wool and you have a bit of the occult sprinkled</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109531747152044073 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109531747152044073><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 1:23 PM">13:23</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lambs are also commonly associated with cult sacrifices too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109668328563298345 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109668328563298345><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109668328563298345>05/20/2023 10:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Added Stray Lamb and Changeling</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109668407500087386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109668407500087386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 10:26 PM">22:26</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Changeling swaps the identities of two players each night, not role or alignment though</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109668462055403530 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109668462055403530><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 10:26 PM">22:26</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe can be finetuned better for balancing</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109668475502333953 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109668475502333953><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/20/2023 10:26 PM">22:26</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>In the future</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109889047385612378 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109889047385612378><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109889047385612378>05/21/2023 1:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I got a bit of a deep cut idea since so far, for the most part the monsters could be considered also mythological/urban legendary/legendary objects of worship, there's always some nutty occultist which ends up being a fanboy to them (hence cult)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:08 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109889352810647684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109889352810647684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:04 PM">13:04</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Combining both mummy and ghost into one, much like its mythical origin also implies</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109889366001729716 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109889366001729716><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:04 PM">13:04</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wight</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109889518783451267 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109889518783451267><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:04 PM">13:04</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Instead of getting both powers at once though, Wight gets limited to do one day killing, the other roleblocking once they're dead</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109889715718602864 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109889715718602864><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:05 PM">13:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Considered Pharaoh but they're kind of powerful, will consider how to make it work in the future though</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109890942451859617 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109890942451859617><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109890942451859617>05/21/2023 1:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I only learned what Mummy did just yesterday via Maxie, I think I had it mixed up with Ghost before
I have a half baked idea on the backburner for a fourth faction based around the Undead, which theoretically would absorb a few of the current undead roles from village/mafia, and then I have some general ideas for retooling existing graveyard roles to be more versatile and on-theme</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891156730445844 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891156730445844><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:11 PM">13:11</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Pharaoh would make a good name for a much more powerful role I think, given their role in being the incarnation of a deity. I’m still pushing for renaming Monsters to be just generally the Cult, since Cultists, Witches, and Alchemists aren’t really monsters</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891300536373418 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891300536373418><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109891300536373418>05/21/2023 1:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cult works, yeah</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891326339711067 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891326339711067><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:11 PM">13:11</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Instead of monsters</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891509010059284 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891509010059284><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109891509010059284>05/21/2023 1:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So in my scheme we would have:
-Village
-Mafia
-Cult
-Undead
-Independents</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891533609652405 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891533609652405><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109891533609652405>05/21/2023 1:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Would be a much easier time than renaming the three roles and finding another name</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891582662025337 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891582662025337><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109891582662025337>05/21/2023 1:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And I can’t really think of any other factions that would be necessary with their own wincons</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109891751440830494 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109891751440830494><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:13 PM">13:13</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But this is all later stuff. I actually want to get to work on updating the spreadsheet currently used for implementing EM roles. I have some ideas to smooth the transition</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109892043163054242 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109892043163054242><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109892043163054242>05/21/2023 1:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'll ask ahead, do you think it would have any problems if some cult effects overlapped with undead?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109892196720705696 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109892196720705696><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:15 PM">13:15</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like Wight just now</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109892532399255562 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109892532399255562><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109892532399255562>05/21/2023 1:16 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not sure, tbh</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109892660765929572 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109892660765929572><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:17 PM">13:17</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Because one of the things I also haven’t decided is how much overlap I want between cult and mafia. For example, village/mafia have deputy/sniper. Why no cult equivalent?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109892756605784174 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109892756605784174><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:17 PM">13:17</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So that’s definitely something we need to sit down and think over</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109892837509713940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109892837509713940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109892837509713940>05/21/2023 1:17 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I see, that's also a good point to raise</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893094175932516 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893094175932516><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109893094175932516>05/21/2023 1:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Now, in theory? You can just make a setup with a Cultist (armed)… but then why should sniper and dep keep existing then, you know? It’s my same problem with BP</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893214523101274 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893214523101274><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109893214523101274>05/21/2023 1:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'd lean into having more of a supernatural approach instead of man-made? So far, the worst offender I got on suggestions is Homunculus that can potentially make a gun</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893257690878055 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893257690878055><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:19 PM">13:19</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Even then, it's random</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893349500010558 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893349500010558><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:19 PM">13:19</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Homunculi just usually helped out Alchemists do what they wanted anyway</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893385143189574 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893385143189574><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109893385143189574>05/21/2023 1:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’m sure that if I dig hard enough I can find some supernatural/occult equivalent to a gun</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893453086740630 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893453086740630><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:20 PM">13:20</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe something involving fireworks or Greek fire</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893498909495317 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893498909495317><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109893498909495317>05/21/2023 1:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>SCP gun that shoots teeth came to mind</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893563367567400 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893563367567400><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:20 PM">13:20</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Or, medieval, like a crossbow</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893751700197386 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893751700197386><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109893751700197386>05/21/2023 1:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh, a blowgun maybe</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893768439677028 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893768439677028><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:21 PM">13:21</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>With darts</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893853177196686 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893853177196686><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109893853177196686>05/21/2023 1:21 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Should probably rework Homunculus around the BG part since the 50/50 of protect or die is out of the table too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893912329470075 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893912329470075><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:22 PM">13:22</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Insta poison?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109893942872395837 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109893942872395837><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:22 PM">13:22</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On the blowgun part, I mean</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109894040935219220 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109894040935219220><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109894040935219220>05/21/2023 1:22 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not sure</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109894115300233337 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109894115300233337><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:22 PM">13:22</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I need to build this EM role table and deliberate on a few things first</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109894258850267250 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109894258850267250><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:23 PM">13:23</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Im gonna piss Sharky off, but I just realized while playing /v/illage that there’s a need for filtering gy chat if I want this undead thing to work</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109895752764903484 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109895752764903484><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1109895752764903484>05/21/2023 1:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe something of a trigger that can turn on/off if there's GY roles involved?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1109895848948662292 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1109895848948662292><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/21/2023 1:29 PM">13:29</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That way, you don't have metagaming interference</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110209030653218896 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110209030653218896><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110209030653218896>05/22/2023 10:14 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Shrink got coded on /v/illage first... it's <img
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<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110228986837078107 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110228986837078107><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110228986837078107>05/22/2023 11:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And bodyguard</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110229020827729962 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110229020827729962><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/22/2023 11:33 AM">11:33</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>With the old effect of 50/50</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110293010467532814 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110293010467532814><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110293010467532814>05/22/2023 3:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Updated roles with: Mare, Marathonist, Wildcard, Joker</span></div><div class=chatlog__reactions><div class=chatlog__reaction title=eyes><img class="chatlog__emoji chatlog__emoji--small" alt=👀 src=https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f440.svg loading=lazy> <span class=chatlog__reaction-count>1</span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110293084962562199 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110293084962562199><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110293084962562199>05/22/2023 3:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah just saw Meira posted it in a game</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110293163895177327 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110293163895177327><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/22/2023 3:48 PM">15:48</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Mare is interesting, I feel like a role existed on EM for it but village-sided?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110293180550746202 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110293180550746202><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/22/2023 3:48 PM">15:48</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's a bit like Secretary maybe</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110293227334029372 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110293227334029372><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110293227334029372>05/22/2023 3:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Collab effort, we tend to go back and forth in Steam while I grind in ORS</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110293250310418523 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110293250310418523><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/22/2023 3:48 PM">15:48</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Kind of</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110297958232117248 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110297958232117248><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110297958232117248>05/22/2023 4:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh, and last second pseudo Asso</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110297981313355918 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110297981313355918><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/22/2023 4:07 PM">16:07</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Mi-Go</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110318800726937620 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110318800726937620><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110318800726937620>05/22/2023 5:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wait, just checked and Secretary is the reverse and it's if it dies</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110318884000632902 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110318884000632902><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/22/2023 5:30 PM">17:30</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Meira mentioned on making Dawn work somehow but with a monster, that's where Mare came from</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110380452344254544 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110380452344254544><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110380452344254544>05/22/2023 9:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And Veteran! Sees self as Villager but gets a gun it visited at night</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110624020988186764 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110624020988186764><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110624020988186764>05/23/2023 1:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hoodlum
Alignment
Independent
Description
When he's in the game, bikes are randomly assigned to players.
Visits once per night.
Will steal a random item from his target.
Wins if he has three bikes.</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110632076992065567 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110632076992065567><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110632076992065567>05/23/2023 2:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's kind of bad from what I heard</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110634577183121448 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110634577183121448><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110634577183121448>05/23/2023 2:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It is</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110634629792280706 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110634629792280706><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/23/2023 2:25 PM">14:25</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It reminds me of an idea I had for a leprechaun role that was just a reverse CG</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110636454020919418 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110636454020919418><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110636454020919418>05/23/2023 2:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it can be doable kinda</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110636486556139542 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110636486556139542><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/23/2023 2:32 PM">14:32</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Leprechaun I mean</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110659992358494309 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110659992358494309><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110659992358494309>05/23/2023 4:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Here's something I dug up from dms</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110659995877523526 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110659995877523526><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/23/2023 4:06 PM">16:06</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__embed><a href=https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430542543374254080/1066884200969555988/image.png> <img class=chatlog__embed-generic-image src=https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/430542543374254080/1066884200969555988/image.png alt="Embedded image" loading=lazy> </a></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110747021339533312 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110747021339533312><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/362385801717219330/6afea850a956df2b0b0f4a61e8793b6b.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(124,151,128) title=maxie#0389 data-user-id=362385801717219330>maxie</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110747021339533312>05/23/2023 9:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>usuperper<img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
title="skull"
src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f480.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
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src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f480.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
title="skull"
src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f480.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
title="skull"
src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f480.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
title="skull"
src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f480.svg"><img
loading="lazy"
class="chatlog__emoji "
alt="💀"
title="skull"
src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f480.svg"></span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110747183940120576 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110747183940120576><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110747183940120576>05/23/2023 9:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Blame sl0nd it's from his DMs with me</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110747253477478482 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110747253477478482><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/23/2023 9:53 PM">21:53</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>don't think he made it just passed it on tho</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110969994537353216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110969994537353216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110969994537353216>05/24/2023 12:38 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I've seen a solid idea for another monster but just don't like the name suggestion much</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110970379943555184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110970379943555184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 12:39 PM">12:39</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Dagon - Converts visited into Deep Ones, for balancing purposes was thinking at most one per night and maybe a downside somewhere
Deep Ones - villager/mafioso for monsters, does nothing else? should be fine this way</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110970615017517102 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110970615017517102><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110970615017517102>05/24/2023 12:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ah, see, this is just like how I was intending on refactoring the Cultist/Cult Leader into two separate roles</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/24/2023 12:40 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110970942814953532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110970942814953532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110970942814953532>05/24/2023 12:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Figured you'd have a say in the matter too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110971234084204584 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110971234084204584><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1110971234084204584>05/24/2023 12:43 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, I think it's the same kind of thing as what I'm intending to change the Cult into in the first place</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1110971361561677935 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1110971361561677935><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 12:43 PM">12:43</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But the thing about a Deep One role... Deep Ones didn't know they were Deep Ones until they had begun to transform, right? Maybe they could be a sleeper agent kind of role?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111004379940667482 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111004379940667482><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111004379940667482>05/24/2023 2:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One day to flip as Deep One, you think?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111004697059405914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111004697059405914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111004697059405914>05/24/2023 2:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe, yeah</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111004785785720943 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111004785785720943><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111004785785720943>05/24/2023 2:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think, I have an idea on how to work it out Dagon</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111004896775376916 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111004896775376916><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 2:56 PM">14:56</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Commuter effect and Deep One takes a day to work</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111005450566119445 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111005450566119445><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111005450566119445>05/24/2023 2:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What if Deep Ones are actually similar to Traitors for the Mafia in that they don't count towards cult faction weight until Dagon visits them and "awakens" them?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111005509651279913 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111005509651279913><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 2:59 PM">14:59</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Idk if the names still work for that, but it's an idea</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006501272825856 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006501272825856><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111006501272825856>05/24/2023 3:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hm true</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006590246604810 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006590246604810><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:03 PM">15:03</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>We could have monsters in general do that upon visit</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006642528591932 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006642528591932><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:03 PM">15:03</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As third</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006682999422987 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006682999422987><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111006682999422987>05/24/2023 3:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, actually what bothers me about this is that it's a bit of a Cult nerf. Vanilla cult leader and cultists are already bringing people into the faction, And if we give them preset marks that seems like it overlaps a lot</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006702473576520 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006702473576520><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:03 PM">15:03</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So maybe this idea ain't the best</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006801715019787 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006801715019787><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:04 PM">15:04</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Then again, some people will argue that Cult needs a nerf</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006905809260574 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006905809260574><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111006905809260574>05/24/2023 3:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cult leader/cultist is kind of a buff actually</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111006963552223356 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111006963552223356><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:05 PM">15:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Against trackers/watchers</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007060839121127 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007060839121127><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:05 PM">15:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>They'll stand by while cult leader does the hard work</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007088303407224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007088303407224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:05 PM">15:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Unless I misunderstood your idea</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007230775533729 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007230775533729><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111007230775533729>05/24/2023 3:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>More or less correct</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007350912983041 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007350912983041><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:06 PM">15:06</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, actually Sharky and I were talking about how all of the Monsters/Cult should vote in the meeting so that you know who your partners are, even if it's just an "end meeting" vote, so maybe not</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007385100759110 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007385100759110><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:06 PM">15:06</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Damn, designing a new faction is actually kinda tough</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007422522331306 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007422522331306><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111007422522331306>05/24/2023 3:06 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ye</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007507498946650 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007507498946650><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:07 PM">15:07</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think the list from the start is enough, really</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007588901978153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007588901978153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:07 PM">15:07</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sharing meeting on voting might be a handful but who knows</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111007941949149244 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111007941949149244><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111007941949149244>05/24/2023 3:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>People might say "Why would a Lycan vote for whom to convert into the Cult" to which I would say "why would a Hooker vote for whom to murder"</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111008095561334904 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111008095561334904><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111008095561334904>05/24/2023 3:09 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alright so basically</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111008191967408138 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111008191967408138><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:09 PM">15:09</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>IF there is cult leader, they vote together with them?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111008751177179286 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111008751177179286><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111008751177179286>05/24/2023 3:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>My recommendation is this:
The Cult always has a faction vote every night. If there was no CL at the beginning of the game, then it's just an "end meeting" vote like with what the Templars have
If there is a CL present in the setup, then that "end meeting" vote becomes a convert-to-cultist vote. I think I was even able to locate the relevant functions in the Github yesterday or the day before
CL's death kills everyone with the Cultist role. If there are any remaining Cult roles (Witch, Alchemist, Thulu) then they would continue to vote in an "end meeting" vote</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111008815786250290 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111008815786250290><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:12 PM">15:12</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That would keep it consistent, if a bit superfluous</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009313679478814 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009313679478814><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009313679478814>05/24/2023 3:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hm, doable but then CL also becomes a liability for other monsters being able to get tracked/watched due to multiple visits</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009349230399549 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009349230399549><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009349230399549>05/24/2023 3:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very true</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009402103812246 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009402103812246><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009402103812246>05/24/2023 3:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Unless, that's in your mind for balancing out cultists staying put</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009459116982302 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009459116982302><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009459116982302>05/24/2023 3:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's not exactly in mind, but it is a balance I can live with</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009586644795483 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009586644795483><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009586644795483>05/24/2023 3:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Tracker/scout then becomes a staple against monsters</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009595100500008 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009595100500008><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:15 PM">15:15</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009607817633813 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009607817633813><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009607817633813>05/24/2023 3:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's the kind of thing where, if you look throughout the history of Mafia, a lot of people agree that the Cult have to be nerfed <em>somehow</em>. I'm not really sure how, but that's one I can be okay with</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009612016144424 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009612016144424><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009612016144424>05/24/2023 3:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, cult</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009632945713152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009632945713152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111009632945713152>05/24/2023 3:15 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>right</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009747173380126 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009747173380126><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:16 PM">15:16</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>early versions of cult play on mafiascum didn't even have a cult leader that killed all their partners upon death, originally</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111009770351112252 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111009770351112252><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:16 PM">15:16</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So that was invented later as a nerf</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111010297650610296 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111010297650610296><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111010297650610296>05/24/2023 3:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, I'm okay with that actually</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111010364830785617 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111010364830785617><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111010364830785617>05/24/2023 3:18 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh, I'm on /v/illage and there's a thread pointing out that Cult used to be killed by Masons and that needs to be brought back. adding it to my refactor issue on the github</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111010532745547807 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111010532745547807><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111010532745547807>05/24/2023 3:19 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also Alchemist got his cooldowns reduced by one</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111010640979574894 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111010640979574894><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:19 PM">15:19</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>ToS Alchemist had the effect start as two until you had the necronomicon</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111010789818642462 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111010789818642462><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111010789818642462>05/24/2023 3:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111010917707157578 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111010917707157578><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:20 PM">15:20</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Alchemist going into the Monsters/Cult was a very good call in my opinion. When I was first introduced to it, it was a third party with no win condition. And thirds with no wincons aren't fun imo</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111011753040543876 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111011753040543876><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:24 PM">15:24</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I've collected a decent number of third party role ideas over the years. And the biggest problem is that many of them either have "wins if they survive/final two" win conditions that aren't very fun, or they just have weak and esoteric win conditions. Porting them to the Cult faction is a possible solution to that problem</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111011899065253993 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111011899065253993><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:24 PM">15:24</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It might not always be on-theme. I'm still questioning if Lycan and The Thing need to be swapped like on /v/illage. But we'll make it work somehow</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111011911526522890 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111011911526522890><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111011911526522890>05/24/2023 3:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I mean, depends on their effect too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111011924096856174 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111011924096856174><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111011924096856174>05/24/2023 3:24 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>right</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012109401210949 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012109401210949><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111012109401210949>05/24/2023 3:25 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Meira hit me up on that with suggesting that WW can work together with cult, just needs to be taken out on being able to eat fellow monsters and also share the meeting</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012170461872148 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012170461872148><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:25 PM">15:25</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Er, The Thing in this case</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012361827000441 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012361827000441><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111012361827000441>05/24/2023 3:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Sharky and I talked about the monster-eating thing too. He pointed out that there is a strategic play in that the Cult could convert people for the ease of being able to eat newly indoctrinated Cultists, and actually I think that's very on-theme. My problem is that it sounds OP as hell</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012404734734367 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012404734734367><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111012404734734367>05/24/2023 3:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Some of the role suggestions can work as PR for The Thing to work with</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012414964646018 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012414964646018><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:26 PM">15:26</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012446904262657 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012446904262657><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:26 PM">15:26</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Cooldown in effect, maybe</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012512549318789 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012512549318789><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:27 PM">15:27</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Only one cultist and that's it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012539740991599 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012539740991599><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:27 PM">15:27</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012912111308951 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012912111308951><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111012912111308951>05/24/2023 3:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think that messes with a lot of classic WW setups</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111012988833509466 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111012988833509466><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:28 PM">15:28</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Unless you're suggesting that a cooldown is only placed on specifically eating cultists</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013052612096030 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013052612096030><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111013052612096030>05/24/2023 3:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013097373696100 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013097373696100><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:29 PM">15:29</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That way you don't have an always invulnerable WW</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013166734917823 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013166734917823><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111013166734917823>05/24/2023 3:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What do you think of the idea of a Cult role that produces guns that never kill, but instead convert</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013371945439302 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013371945439302><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:30 PM">15:30</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It would be somewhat of a spin on Associate. You shoot a player with a cult gun (we can invent flavor for this) that fails to kill them. Were they vested? Were you given an asso gun? No, they convert to Cultist</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013466896093234 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013466896093234><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:30 PM">15:30</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But if you shoot a member of the Cult, it does kill them</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013805787455609 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013805787455609><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:32 PM">15:32</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You know the gag in Batman where the Joker's gun pops out a little flag that says "BANG!" ? That could be the flavor text when you're shot with it. Call it Hypnotist or something</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111013992593362984 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111013992593362984><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111013992593362984>05/24/2023 3:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>OP coupled with actual cult leader around</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014002521280634 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014002521280634><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:32 PM">15:32</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014007604785152 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014007604785152><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014007604785152>05/24/2023 3:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014076978561104 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014076978561104><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:33 PM">15:33</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Non-sandbox setups shouldn't include two converting cult roles</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014121006178394 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014121006178394><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014121006178394>05/24/2023 3:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, agree</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014174965891123 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014174965891123><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014174965891123>05/24/2023 3:33 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But of course that's up to the setup designer, can't stop them from making an unbalanced setup</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014402750165002 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014402750165002><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:34 PM">15:34</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This also brings me to another idea I had. Shrink is a GREAT role and Masons need to be able to kill Cultists, but maybe that's not enough. I'd recommend a role that works like how Blacksmith works compared to Doctor, giving out an item that saves you from conversion. Maybe a Missionary role that gives out tracts?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014502243254364 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014502243254364><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014502243254364>05/24/2023 3:34 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>On the other hand though, it's not like the usual sandbox setup has more than 2 cult at most</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014521490898954 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014521490898954><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:35 PM">15:35</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014530038911006 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014530038911006><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014530038911006>05/24/2023 3:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>very true</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014540243644526 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014540243644526><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014540243644526>05/24/2023 3:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Good idea</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014635404009523 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014635404009523><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:35 PM">15:35</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Missionary/nun</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014663665242142 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014663665242142><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014663665242142>05/24/2023 3:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Don't know if the Missionary theming is the best, but it's in the right direction</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014715297116251 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014715297116251><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014715297116251>05/24/2023 3:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I think it fits</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014746632761445 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014746632761445><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111014746632761445>05/24/2023 3:35 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And like Shrink it has potential to backfire. The Shrink stops Mason and Yak conversions as much as it does Cult conversions</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014819856908369 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014819856908369><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:36 PM">15:36</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>You get a nice little bible tract from your neighbor and fall down the anti-masonic pipeline, uh oh</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111014877952213153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111014877952213153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:36 PM">15:36</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>but hey, it keeps you from sacrificing people to the dark gods</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111015042201165914 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111015042201165914><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111015042201165914>05/24/2023 3:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That was the idea at first with Evangelizer before it turned into Jahbulon</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111015052640784505 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111015052640784505><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:37 PM">15:37</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Lol</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111015089751982101 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111015089751982101><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111015089751982101>05/24/2023 3:37 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh yeah!</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111015125063827617 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111015125063827617><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:37 PM">15:37</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very good stuff. I really love Jahbulon</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111015174980239423 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111015174980239423><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:37 PM">15:37</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>A good spin on Cult and Autocrat, very unique</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111015939417309224 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111015939417309224><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111015939417309224>05/24/2023 3:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just wanted a sort of nerf for mason since some games just become ruling out who isn't in the secret club</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111016334256521286 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111016334256521286><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:42 PM">15:42</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Should tracts cure insanity though?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111016393035481209 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111016393035481209><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:42 PM">15:42</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Given some more roles may give that effect</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111016507535802489 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111016507535802489><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111016507535802489>05/24/2023 3:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>See I'm never sure if insanity should be cured or not because 9/10 times a formerly insane player will vote out cthulhu</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111016549369778216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111016549369778216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/24/2023 3:43 PM">15:43</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>However, i think Shrink could cure insanity, so for parity sake I guess so</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1111700922406547487 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1111700922406547487><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1111700922406547487>05/26/2023 1:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Note to Golb: Chandler's original mechanic for Candle should probably be split in two</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112166767746359338 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112166767746359338><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112166767746359338>05/27/2023 7:53 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Updated with Jabberwocky and Boggle</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112166847975002123 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112166847975002123><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 7:53 PM">19:53</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Didn't touch roles related with Deep One to see what you wanna do about them, Golb</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112166856862736434 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112166856862736434><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112166856862736434>05/27/2023 7:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Boggle?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112166885669208154 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112166885669208154><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112166885669208154>05/27/2023 7:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Ah yes</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112166939922546838 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112166939922546838><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112166939922546838>05/27/2023 7:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><a href="https://youtu.be/PTdxPliBdZs">https://youtu.be/PTdxPliBdZs</a></span></div><div class=chatlog__embed><div class=chatlog__embed-color-pill style=background-color:rgba(255,0,0,255)></div><div class=chatlog__embed-content-container><div class=chatlog__embed-content><div class=chatlog__embed-text><div class=chatlog__embed-author-container><a class=chatlog__embed-author-link href=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKFpA5Jr12jo8JgAv918dWg><div class=chatlog__embed-author>Canned Bread</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-title><a class=chatlog__embed-title-link href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTdxPliBdZs"><div class="chatlog__markdown chatlog__markdown-preserve">Hank of the Hill (Re-Upload)</div></a></div><div class=chatlog__embed-youtube-container><iframe class=chatlog__embed-youtube src=https://www.youtube.com/embed/PTdxPliBdZs width=400 height=225></iframe></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112166967579787355 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112166967579787355><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112166967579787355>05/27/2023 7:54 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>DnD little fella based on drafterman's Nexus</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167031777804298 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167031777804298><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 7:54 PM">19:54</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Name subject to change in the future if needed</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167255191588874 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167255191588874><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112167255191588874>05/27/2023 7:55 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I’ll have to check if Boggle is a trademarked word. At the very least it’s not the best noun. But I’m not a hater for the concept</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/27/2023 7:55 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167310812254329 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167310812254329><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 7:55 PM">19:55</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Never liked the name Nexus either and I’ve played with that role</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167449484337266 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167449484337266><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112167449484337266>05/27/2023 7:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, coming up with stuff that redirects attacks and such is... Hard</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167503884460072 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167503884460072><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112167503884460072>05/27/2023 7:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167521324384266 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167521324384266><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 7:56 PM">19:56</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don’t blame you</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167538529411082 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167538529411082><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112167538529411082>05/27/2023 7:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh yeah, also had an idea on a Cthulhu buff it needed that isn't out of line</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167562386620566 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167562386620566><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112167562386620566>05/27/2023 7:56 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167678178754570 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167678178754570><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112167678178754570>05/27/2023 7:57 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>If the insane still visits Cthulhu, they can get consumed, much like a The Thing effect</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112167760387117166 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112167760387117166><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 7:57 PM">19:57</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That was a bit with combo in mind</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112168894212354119 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112168894212354119><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 8:02 PM">20:02</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What do you think?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112169200354603058 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112169200354603058><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112169200354603058>05/27/2023 8:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Interesting. I like it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112169466818744471 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112169466818744471><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112169466818744471>05/27/2023 8:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Niiice</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112169568912281730 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112169568912281730><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 8:04 PM">20:04</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It isn't too far off and feels fair, though I'm tooting my own horn here</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112175457174040627 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112175457174040627><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/461268548229136395/c61852ecc70c66fb23ad85444ee1da6e.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(124,151,128) title=LeEpicH#2138 data-user-id=461268548229136395>LeEpicH</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112175457174040627>05/27/2023 8:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i think probably monsters/whatever could get an alternate win condition where if all living non-monster players are insane they automatically win</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112175513214124114 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112175513214124114><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112175513214124114>05/27/2023 8:28 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmmm</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112175539663425536 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112175539663425536><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/27/2023 8:28 PM">20:28</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That's also an interesting idea</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112176065830469692 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112176065830469692><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/461268548229136395/c61852ecc70c66fb23ad85444ee1da6e.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(124,151,128) title=LeEpicH#2138 data-user-id=461268548229136395>LeEpicH</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112176065830469692>05/27/2023 8:30 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>in addition to the whole “insane players cant vote” thing from em</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112374910862508052 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112374910862508052><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112374910862508052>05/28/2023 9:40 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm I think Village Idiot but as a negative effect to someone may be a good idea</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112395790409793546 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112395790409793546><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112395790409793546>05/28/2023 11:03 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>That one is out of the way, now to think of the name of a monster which can make his visit apply the same effect of the visited to the visited itself but I'm drawing a blank</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112395939060138126 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112395939060138126><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112395939060138126>05/28/2023 11:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Wait, lay that one out for me again?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112395971708584066 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112395971708584066><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112395971708584066>05/28/2023 11:04 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Basically</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396126570688604 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396126570688604><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 11:05 AM">11:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It'll duplicate the target night action on itself</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396214122594424 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396214122594424><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112396214122594424>05/28/2023 11:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh I see</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396226197983235 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396226197983235><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112396226197983235>05/28/2023 11:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>So if a vigil or something kills, it'll die too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396234800496650 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396234800496650><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112396234800496650>05/28/2023 11:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like what Monkey does right?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396254064943215 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396254064943215><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112396254064943215>05/28/2023 11:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396318204243968 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396318204243968><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 11:05 AM">11:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Though Monkey currently is more like steal the action for itself</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396329562411171 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396329562411171><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112396329562411171>05/28/2023 11:05 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Shadow might be a good name for that?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396423682592860 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396423682592860><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112396423682592860>05/28/2023 11:06 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hmm shame I already used Doppelgänger</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112396451788640308 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112396451788640308><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 11:06 AM">11:06</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, could be</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112398053610111108 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112398053610111108><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 11:12 AM">11:12</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thought about Nemesis but while the name sounds <em>bad</em> enough to be a monster, it can't be</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112403403843317850 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112403403843317850><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112403403843317850>05/28/2023 11:33 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>What about Djinn?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112556554332413992 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112556554332413992><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112556554332413992>05/28/2023 9:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Now just need a name for a monster role that steals souls(blocks people from reviving) and gains voting power from it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112556588625043496 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112556588625043496><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 9:42 PM">21:42</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Soultaker is too much on the nose</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112564060333015090 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112564060333015090><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/461268548229136395/c61852ecc70c66fb23ad85444ee1da6e.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(124,151,128) title=LeEpicH#2138 data-user-id=461268548229136395>LeEpicH</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112564060333015090>05/28/2023 10:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>i think for a mafia game</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112564101189734470 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112564101189734470><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:12 PM">22:12</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>having names that are too on the nose isnt a bad thing</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112564112455651379 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112564112455651379><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:12 PM">22:12</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>bc less confusing</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112566034210242560 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112566034210242560><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112566034210242560>05/28/2023 10:20 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Very good point</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112566177856753684 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112566177856753684><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:20 PM">22:20</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Maybe the role looking like a illithid will be the selling point</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112566353484853269 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112566353484853269><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:21 PM">22:21</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'll update the doc then with the three roles</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112573137964511282 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112573137964511282><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1112573137964511282>05/28/2023 10:48 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Myceloid, Djinn and Soultaker</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:48 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112574719305199616 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112574719305199616><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:54 PM">22:54</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Myceloid - visits a target and gives them Village Idiot effect
Additionally, any action the target does is delayed for a day and becomes vulnerable to being killed during the next day/night cycle (docs won't work, armor etc)</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:55 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112575205563432980 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112575205563432980><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:56 PM">22:56</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>As for soultaker
Guesses someone that will die and steals their soul if they do correctly
Players with their soul stolen cannot be revived
Additionally, stolen souls gives extra voting power to the Soultaker
By successfully stealing 2 souls, gains an extra life</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/29/2023 12:34 AM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112575458412863580 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112575458412863580><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 10:57 PM">22:57</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was thinking on 4 that he may steal souls from the dead as long it's "fresh" but might be a bit much for late game</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112576208304078919 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112576208304078919><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 11:00 PM">23:00</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Or, have that effect as the 2 and then 4 for extra life</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1112576230777176114 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1112576230777176114><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/28/2023 11:00 PM">23:00</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Thoughts?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113132685272043641 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113132685272043641><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113132685272043641>05/30/2023 11:51 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I changed soul-eater, formerly soultaker a bit, will update the doc with both it and opportunist(basically maf vivor)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113132949261537281 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113132949261537281><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113132949261537281>05/30/2023 11:52 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="Animumus#9645">@Ruviz</span> Did you see the new modifiers from vastined?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113133163439456336 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113133163439456336><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113133163439456336>05/30/2023 11:53 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Just saw</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113133224009420872 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113133224009420872><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 11:54 AM">11:54</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, got passed by me</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113147207584059452 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113147207584059452><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113147207584059452>05/30/2023 12:49 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Seems like the goal of 20+ monsters variety is getting there</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113147290794860675 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113147290794860675><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 12:49 PM">12:49</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I might have another 5 up my sleeve, just need to work out the balancing kinks</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113147354548285522 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113147354548285522><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 12:50 PM">12:50</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Will be more reliant on conversion/revive too</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113147409518825642 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113147409518825642><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 12:50 PM">12:50</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Revive is just one but I think people will like the idea</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113147442066624532 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113147442066624532><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113147442066624532>05/30/2023 12:50 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm glad you guys have been fleshing out the whole faction</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113147988148228216 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113147988148228216><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113147988148228216>05/30/2023 12:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, wish I had a better grasp of coding to speed up the process</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113149434428145815 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113149434428145815><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 12:58 PM">12:58</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, it's nothing, been fun for us both</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113149599931187311 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113149599931187311><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 12:59 PM">12:59</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Trying to steer a bit clear out of the undead/revive actions but. This one just can't be passed by with sacrifice in mind</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113149869968855153 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113149869968855153><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113149869968855153>05/30/2023 1:00 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm not against undead roles being made right now, i just have ideas for undead faction as a whole later. I'm not against moving roles to other factions that are more appropriate</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:00 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113149949849391184 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113149949849391184><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:00 PM">13:00</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I just wouldn't count undead-themed monster roles towards your total count</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150105277706280 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150105277706280><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113150105277706280>05/30/2023 1:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Fair enough</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150207513866282 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150207513866282><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113150207513866282>05/30/2023 1:01 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like for example, Mummy is currently Mafia. It will probably become an Undead role, if I get around to fleshing out my ideas for the undead faction</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150315701751940 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150315701751940><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:01 PM">13:01</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I know that leepich mentioned possibly changing Arsonist to 3rd party, since it's presented that way on a lot of games</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150423126261760 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150423126261760><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113150423126261760>05/30/2023 1:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I kinda like it, people just need to explore more with no-reveal and maybe undead as a faction could get a lot of that in mind</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150498506289185 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150498506289185><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:02 PM">13:02</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Being revealed is the Achilles heel of them</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150542873641090 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150542873641090><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113150542873641090>05/30/2023 1:02 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yes</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150623379103775 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150623379103775><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:03 PM">13:03</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And we need roles like Exorcist/Ghostbuster to make a comeback as well, for eliminating roles in the graveyard</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150714294849677 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150714294849677><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113150714294849677>05/30/2023 1:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>looks at soul-eater</em></span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113150743315218492 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113150743315218492><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:03 PM">13:03</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Uh, coincidence</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113151110849515671 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113151110849515671><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:05 PM">13:05</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Meira actually made that based off /v/illage's antichrist</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113151700501528596 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113151700501528596><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113151700501528596>05/30/2023 1:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>oh lol</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113151743744811150 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113151743744811150><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:07 PM">13:07</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I was thinking of the EM roles</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113152750050627634 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113152750050627634><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113152750050627634>05/30/2023 1:11 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Speaking of trolling from the other chat</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113152852009947217 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113152852009947217><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:12 PM">13:12</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I don't think that's Cosmodeus in /v/illage lobby</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113152978954752100 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113152978954752100><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113152978954752100>05/30/2023 1:12 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Oh really?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113153117366788228 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113153117366788228><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113153117366788228>05/30/2023 1:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah, never seen them use "y'all"</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113157302078406766 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113157302078406766><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113157302078406766>05/30/2023 1:29 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Now, another change that I've been mulling over existing roles, <strong>should</strong> darkness effect also hide roles of those who died during the same night?</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:30 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113157939474202724 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113157939474202724><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113157939474202724>05/30/2023 1:32 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I kinda like that idea tbh</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:32 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113158011804979351 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113158011804979351><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="05/30/2023 1:32 PM">13:32</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It could at least have a delaying effect for the reveal</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113164734175379508 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113164734175379508><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113164734175379508>05/30/2023 1:59 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>It's a bit on thinking ahead for also gimmicks for undead/GY roles</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113940791363125318 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113940791363125318><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113940791363125318>06/01/2023 5:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Updated list with
Pusher
Ritualist
Witch Doctor</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113945266467385374 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113945266467385374><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113945266467385374>06/01/2023 5:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I really want to come up with a Mothman since I find it cute but seems impossible</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113945458398732299 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113945458398732299><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/362385801717219330/6afea850a956df2b0b0f4a61e8793b6b.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(124,151,128) title=maxie#0389 data-user-id=362385801717219330>maxie</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113945458398732299>06/01/2023 5:41 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I can't think of anything with it but interactions with candle (as chandler is making a comeback) would be fun</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113945583032475801 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113945583032475801><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113945583032475801>06/01/2023 5:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Speaking of chandler, I had an idea for something similar which I'm just balancing out</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113948274651570236 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113948274651570236><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113948274651570236>06/01/2023 5:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'll just say ahead it's a thief roles counter</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1113982908726775868 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1113982908726775868><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1113982908726775868>06/01/2023 8:10 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>With a fun interaction too overall, kinda</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1114950079716004073 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1114950079716004073><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1114950079716004073>06/04/2023 12:13 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Updated with just torchbearer, for now</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1114950240978612346 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1114950240978612346><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1114950240978612346>06/04/2023 12:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>This is your Chandler alt/rework?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1114950287065616464 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1114950287065616464><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1114950287065616464>06/04/2023 12:14 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>More like an alt</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1114950407203082333 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1114950407203082333><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/04/2023 12:14 PM">12:14</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I'm against replacing roles that have just an extra/different effect</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1114950435871141918 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1114950435871141918><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/04/2023 12:14 PM">12:14</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Like Toreador/Pianist</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1114950841812660364 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1114950841812660364><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/04/2023 12:16 PM">12:16</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The name will make even more sense when you see the effect too</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115089296706256946 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115089296706256946><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115089296706256946>06/04/2023 9:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Huh, this is bad, I think I might actually be hitting a wall for monsters soon</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115089348422029322 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115089348422029322><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115089348422029322>06/04/2023 9:26 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>How so?</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115089411282051172 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115089411282051172><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115089411282051172>06/04/2023 9:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>The well of ideas is running dry</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115089556690190396 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115089556690190396><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115089556690190396>06/04/2023 9:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One of the things i'm debating is whether some of the roles with both village/mafia equivalents need to have a cult equivalent as well. I'm not keen on it</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115089562369269770 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115089562369269770><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115089562369269770>06/04/2023 9:27 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>With Cthylla and another unnamed one, may be the last</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="06/04/2023 9:37 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115089712923803651 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115089712923803651><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/04/2023 9:28 PM">21:28</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Hm, depends on the setup, I'll vouch over variety at the very least</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115090481232228435 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115090481232228435><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/04/2023 9:31 PM">21:31</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>And even so, I can't really have just conversion here, insanity there to all of them</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115092799784763432 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115092799784763432><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115092799784763432>06/04/2023 9:40 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Also, I tried my best to not cross the line of mafia having direct kills within the effects as well, with few exceptions</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115093332822077511 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115093332822077511><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115093332822077511>06/04/2023 9:42 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Well, exceptions make the rule, so if you do think of a cult role that can work with a direct kill, it's not the end of the world</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115094551221243924 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115094551221243924><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1115094551221243924>06/04/2023 9:47 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>But then I'm betraying the guideline of focusing on disruption, combo and counters, most mafia extra kills are situational enough</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1115094834009612349 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1115094834009612349><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/04/2023 9:48 PM">21:48</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><em>If</em>, by focusing on part of extra kill with the guideline in mind, it makes a difference</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1116469899213144074 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1116469899213144074><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1116469899213144074>06/08/2023 4:52 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Medusa has been moved, or at least i submitted a PR for it</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1116470040431177738 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1116470040431177738><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/08/2023 4:53 PM">16:53</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Going thru to change all references of "Monsters" to Cult will be annoying and take a little while, but will be worth it. Also going to try splitting Cultist/Cult Leader in a little while</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117035084428615690 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117035084428615690><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117035084428615690>06/10/2023 6:18 AM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Rip snek</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117161209783918672 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117161209783918672><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117161209783918672>06/10/2023 2:39 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Not a fan of one-shot and then having it become a sitting duck imo</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117167158233927692 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117167158233927692><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645>Ruviz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1117161209783918672')"> Not a fan of one-shot and then having it become a sitting duck imo </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117167158233927692>06/10/2023 3:03 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve><span class="chatlog__markdown-mention" title="LeEpicH#2138">@LeEpicH</span> had an idea to un-oneshot every role and leave it up to setup designers to assign oneshot modifiers to roles. I support that</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117167459452067960 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117167459452067960><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117167459452067960>06/10/2023 3:04 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Medusa is a bit of a special case though, petrification is either too much or completely useless, having Medusa do it multiple times doesn't seem like the way to go</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117172238752415814 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117172238752415814><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117172238752415814>06/10/2023 3:23 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Anyway, point being, I'm against having roles be too limited, of course knowing its limitations
Like for example, enchantress</span> <span class=chatlog__edited-timestamp title="06/10/2023 3:23 PM">(edited)</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117177483935092886 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117177483935092886><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/253314832533684224/a8dadd7d07aa2e7f60b80358230a32c7.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author title=golbolco#0000 data-user-id=253314832533684224>golbolco</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117177483935092886>06/10/2023 3:44 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>Yeah enchantress is a classic example</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117183243763073124 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117183243763073124><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__reply-symbol></div><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/461268548229136395/c61852ecc70c66fb23ad85444ee1da6e.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__reply><img class=chatlog__reply-avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy><div class=chatlog__reply-author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645>Ruviz</div><div class=chatlog__reply-content><span class=chatlog__reply-link onclick="scrollToMessage(event,'1117167459452067960')"> Medusa is a bit of a special case though, petrification is either too much or completely useless, having Medusa do it multiple times doesn't seem like the way to go </span></div></div><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(124,151,128) title=LeEpicH#2138 data-user-id=461268548229136395>LeEpicH</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117183243763073124>06/10/2023 4:07 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>its up to setup creators to make balanced setups, not the game to have balanced roles. a 2/3/4 shot modifier would be good</span></div></div></div></div></div>
<div class=chatlog__message-group><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117183501440127118 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117183501440127118><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><img class=chatlog__avatar src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/avatars/485649674687217685/59e64397ab39f4986b08f02b1bc8fea2.png?size=512" alt=Avatar loading=lazy></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class=chatlog__header><span class=chatlog__author style=color:rgb(115,14,14) title=Animumus#9645 data-user-id=485649674687217685>Ruviz</span> <span class=chatlog__timestamp><a href=#chatlog__message-container-1117183501440127118>06/10/2023 4:08 PM</a></span></div><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I still digress, not everything needs a modifier on them.</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117183705912459444 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117183705912459444><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/10/2023 4:09 PM">16:09</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>I even talked with Golb about this as powercreep; once there's a role that does it all, what's even the point of picking the original?</span></div></div></div></div><div id=chatlog__message-container-1117183939216416953 class=chatlog__message-container data-message-id=1117183939216416953><div class=chatlog__message><div class=chatlog__message-aside><div class=chatlog__short-timestamp title="06/10/2023 4:10 PM">16:10</div></div><div class=chatlog__message-primary><div class="chatlog__content chatlog__markdown"><span class=chatlog__markdown-preserve>One of the reasons too, some roles with extra powers are on the chopping block or even being considered barred</span></div></div></div></div></div>
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