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Should canoe view include ways with boat=yes? #67

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amandasaurus opened this issue Sep 20, 2024 · 1 comment
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Should canoe view include ways with boat=yes? #67

amandasaurus opened this issue Sep 20, 2024 · 1 comment

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The current Navigable with canoe waterwaymap (defined here) does not include ways with boat=yes (that's included in the boatab;e map).

As someone asks on fedi/masto:

I'm curious why waterwaymap doesn't consider "navigable by canoe" to include waterways tagged with boat=yes? As I read the OSM wiki, boat= is the general tag that include the others, unless specified separately.

So, should the canoe map include boat ways?

BTW the boat & canoe maps take ~5 min each to generate, I can easily just add a third.

ping @quincylvania who knows more about canoeing than me

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quincylvania commented Oct 1, 2024

Hi! Here in North America at least, boat is a highly generic tag that covers vessels with a vast range of sizes and abilities. This matters for safety in open water, where large waves can tip canoes. I think in Europe mappers use boat as legal access on the many signed waterways, but a typical canoe should not follow a ship channel through a large bay (I use canoe=discouraged on these).

I think of boat and canoe like vehicle and bicycle. Generally boat=no should imply canoe=no, but boat=yes should not imply canoe=yes. But if people are mapping with motorboats in mind they may put boat=no on small stream that you can still paddle. If I see only boat tagged on a way then I assume no one has paddle-mapped it yet and usually ignore the tag entirely.

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