Is this Repo still actively supported?

[def1149]

I haven't seen a lot of action by the repo owner @sabeechen in quite a while
Is this repo dying?

[sevorl]

Check out HA 2025.1 which features new Backup functionality. I haven't tested this yet, but it seems this addon is no longer necessary. https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2025/01/03/3-2-1-backup/

[Steve2017]

Check out HA 2025.1 which features new Backup functionality. I haven't tested this yet, but it seems this addon is no longer necessary. https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2025/01/03/3-2-1-backup/

You might want to read the comments in the HA community forum first. There is a lot of unhappiness with the way it's executed... especially the encryption. Also the cloud backup offered by Nabu Casa only stores one version.

[flashadams]

Another concern I have with the way it's going is handing over backups to a cloud provider (nabu) not of my choice. Until they work the kinks out I don't think they should have pushed that new functionality in 2025.1

[def1149]

The new HA backup was designed to be extendable to other cloud systems and I saw that someone has already created an integration to Google Drive and is preparing the PR.

[gfn256]

I have forever used this add-on, and would like to take this opportunity of thanking @sabeechen for an absolutely excellent & robust add-on, in my opinion one of the best at least of those that I personally use. So a great thanks, & I sincerely hope his great work continues.

I have also been contemplating how this add-on will continue to function after the 2025.1 update which incorporates its' own scheduling & encryption system.

So far; I have not configured the new core backup features at all, & have still successfully managed to make a manual backup with the add-on, so I am guessing that the add-on's own scheduling will work as usual.

My main concern is; if I do go ahead & setup the new core backup features (I don't really need/want the encryption but I would like the ability to have a synced copy on the Nabu Casa cloud), will this add-on still operate as usual on schedule? Also; will the backups still be pruned in the normal fashion? Will these backups now be encrypted?

I'm not 100% sure this is the right place for raising these questions - so I will probably also post this on the HA core site.

[def1149]

Encryption is mandatory at this point if you enable the new HA backup.
If you don't enable the new backup the Google backup will continue to work as it does. Nothing has been said at this time that is planned to break Google's backup.

[1liminal1]

So just to be clear, updating to 2025.01 will not effect our current backup workflow with this addon?

[gfn256]

I'm still wondering what will happen if I setup the backup with encryption (as is required AFAIK) what will happen to my regular scheduled GDBs; will they also start being encrypted?
I'm inclined to believe they won't from this issue/thread I opened, and frenck kindly replied shortly & then closed the issue, but I must say I'm not 100% sure, (& possibly nor is frenck?).

[def1149]

This is a Google Backup after updating to 2025.1.0. I did not enable the new HA automatic backup.
AFAIK If you enable the new HA automatic backup, ALL your backups will be encrypted, Google and HA, because Google Backup calls the HA backup process.

[gfn256]

AFAIK If you enable the new HA automatic backup, ALL your backups will be encrypted, Google and HA, because Google Backup calls the HA backup process.

I have my doubts - but maybe you/someone can confirm after an actual test. I won't be configuring the core backup until I have firm evidence.

[hille721]

This addon continues to work without any problems together with the new HA backup solution (as they also stated in their blog).
The backups from this addon are still unencrypted as before and will show up as manual backups in the new HA backup site:

[gfn256]

The backups from this addon are still unencrypted as before and will show up as manual backups in the new HA backup site:

I see your images, but have you already configured (encryption key etc.) in the new core backup in HA?

[hille721]

of course as the new backup is a killer feature :)

[hille721]

here all backups (one automatic from HA, just updated yesterday), the 5 manual ones from this Addon.

[1liminal1]

Soooo, as long as you don't enable it, you just continue on as normal?

[Steve2017]

This is a Google Backup after updating to 2025.1.0. I did not enable the new HA automatic backup. AFAIK If you enable the new HA automatic backup, ALL your backups will be encrypted, Google and HA, because Google Backup calls the HA backup process.

I've just checked my backup from overnight and it is not encrypted. I have not activated the new backup system - just Google Drive backup. What's not clear to me is that if I enable encryption in this back-up repo (ie set password), does it encrypt both local and Google Drive?

[hille721]

Soooo, as long as you don't enable it, you just continue on as normal?

no, you can enable it and use both in parallel without any problems. The Google Drive backups will continue to work as normal

[hille721]

As soon as this lands in HA core this Addon is really not needed anymore (especially as it seems to be unmaintained anyhow):

home-assistant/core#134576

[gfn256]

As soon as this lands in HA core this Addon is really not needed anymore (especially as it seems to be unmaintained anyhow):

home-assistant/core#134576

Thanks for this great info!

I'm only hoping that they also allow in the new core backup system encryption/non-encryption by choice & also robust scheduling mechanism. This current add-on (GDB) allows an extremely versatile scheduling mechanism (which I use).

I'm also hoping that the retention policy will also be configurable for the Google Drive - as this add-on is.

[AlecRust]

@gfn256 read the announcements:

• https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2025/01/03/release-20251/
• https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2025/01/03/3-2-1-backup/

encryption/non-encryption by choice

Encryption is now mandatory.

also robust scheduling mechanism

Yes, it does.

In summary, there is likely no need for this add-on after home-assistant/core#134576

Even if sabeechen came back - what would this add-on do differently? I too enjoyed this add-on, but with the new core implementation, extending it with more capability would likely be a separate new add-on - not this one.

[gfn256]

read the announcements:

My comments above were written AFTER reading the announcements (& updating).

Encryption is now mandatory.

Exactly why I requested the option be left to the user. (It could be defined as opt-out, but should definitely offer the option). You should read the various threads & posts from the past, of users trying to restore their systems with only encrypted backups. Also think of the scenario if one wants to just retrieve a small portion of a config file / automation etc. to copy to current setup.

Yes, it does.

So if I want to backup every three days at 2.00 am, I can do that? You can't - read the announcements.

[def1149]

I'll continue to use Google Backup as long as it works or at least the following capabilities are implemented in HA backup:

1. Option to decrypt on download.
2. As flexible or better backup scheduling than Google Backup
3. Access to Google Drive for cloud backups. Only a single Nabu backup is unacceptable.

Features I'd like to see in order of importance:

1. Backup validation. Individual backups can be verified as not corrupt, automatically or on demand. Backups are worthless if they can't be restored.
2. Retention time set by each backup location
3. Backup events raised to HA. Start, End, Completion status
4. Generational backups